What I'm doing instead of writing: Reading Chick tracks.

This one's kind of rubbing me the wrong way, because taking back an abusive man unless he's actually gone through therapy? Bad idea, no matter how saved he claims to be.

This one, on the other hand, is just plain hilarious. Yo, Jack, easy on the metaphors, man.

COMMUNISM = TEH DEVl!!11111!!!1!

And WTF is with the fundamentalists in the States (I don't recall ever seeing this anywhere else) and their hatred against the Catholic Church? Not that I don't sympathise, but oi.

Edit: Rock and Roll will SEND YOU TO HELL!!!

Right, so I'm 1) not baptised, 2) gay, 3) semi-communist, and 4) a fan of rock 'n roll. So I might as well be a pervy child fancier, because I'm already on the way to hell at quadruple speed.


From: [identity profile] darksong.livejournal.com


Chick tracts creep me out.

Of course, I was watching The 700 Club last Thursday because it was Halloween and I just wanted to confirm that I was, in fact, going to hell.

From: [identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com

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They creep me out when I'm in that kind of mood, but today, they judt amuse me. ("... Which was just dumb, dumb, dumb!" Bwahahahaha!)

The 700 Club?

From: [identity profile] darksong.livejournal.com


The 700 Club is a fundamentalist "news" program. Basically.

From: [identity profile] asilvahalo.livejournal.com


Catholicism isn't real Christianity, you know.

(1) Most of the original settlers were Protestants, not Catholics. Therefore, most of the Catholics were immigrants. In fact, there was a whole political party (http://dmoz.org/Society/History/By_Region/North_America/United_States/Political_Parties/Know-Nothings/) bsed on being anti-immigrant as well as anti-Catholic in the nineteenth century.

(2) In fact, a question raised about JFK was if his loyalty to the Pope would prevent him from being a good president.

(3) Most Protestants have a really fucked up view of what Catholicism is. They tend to be taught that we [a] will never go against something the Pope says, [b] worship the saints like gods, [c] worship Mary as a goddess.

Much on this same subject is a really odd thing I've noticed which is that I was always taught that Protestants believe that it's belief in Jesus not good works that gets one into heaven, whilst Catholics believe it's good works and belief. My Presbyterian friend was taught the other way. This amuses me to no end.



Basically, it seems to be a "it's foreign to us, so it's wrong" thing.

From: [identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com

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Much on this same subject is a really odd thing I've noticed which is that I was always taught that Protestants believe that it's belief in Jesus not good works that gets one into heaven, whilst Catholics believe it's good works and belief.

Which, oddly enough, seems to be what Mr Chick says, too. Hrm. Am confused. Now you know why I haven't joined an organised religion yet ...
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Jack Chick tracts. Oh, man, those take me back....

I don't know what it is with U.S. fundamentalists and Catholics. I do know that when I taught Spanish (at a fundamentalist Christian school, no less) I had to spend a significant portion of the "culture" lessons explaining that yes, Catholics are Christians, so yes, they celebrate Christmas... and no, they don't eat babies, and no, they don't practice human sacrifice... (I kid you not.)

From: [identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com

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See, living in a country where Catholicism is the predominant religion, this is all just weird to me.

(Catholics do, however, assume that unbaptised babies will be buried in the garden by their parents, "like dogs". Or at least the pastor of the twon where I was born assumed so, and told my mother as much when he came to harass her over the fact that I wasn't baptised.)

From: [identity profile] asilvahalo.livejournal.com


Unfortunately, unbaptized children do go to hell, I believe. Shame.

*eats babies*

From: [identity profile] mydarkstar.livejournal.com


Woohoo! Since that means I'm already hellbound no matter what I do, I think I'll engage in some sin and debauchery.

*does*

From: [identity profile] asilvahalo.livejournal.com


Well, that may only be the Fundamentalist Catholic view. I can't recall the stance on such things as taught to me in Cathechism, only from the Charismatic prayer meeting discussions.

That was the best thing about the Charismatics. Being told to convert Protestants to Catholicism. "Convert Christians to Christianity!!!!"

Of course, now I firmly believe all four major patriarchial monotheistic religions are basically branches of the same damn thing.

From: [identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com

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Yeah, that's what I just added to the entry. :D I mean, bewteen not being baptised, loving rock music, being a commie, and being gay, I'm already hellbound anyway, do I might as well enjoy the child perving while I can.

From: [identity profile] usual.livejournal.com


If you're not baptised you're not recognised by God, and you go to Hell. 'Course, easy for me to say, being baptised and well on the fast route to downstairs anyway.

On a more random note, likely to be online later? I have an offer for you. ::waggles eyebrows:: Possibly less exciting than it sounds, which is saying something.

From: [identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com

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See, I actually now want to be baptised, but I've yet to find an organised religion that doesn't grate me the wrong way.

Offer? Oooh! I shall be on in about ... An hour and a half, possibly two hours, if that's all right?

From: [identity profile] usual.livejournal.com


Oh, no. We don't grate the babies before we eat them...

::blinks:: OK, time is passing way too fast today. I'm losing whole hours.

Anyway, yeah. I'll be around all evening, I suspect.
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From: [personal profile] that_mireille

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Hey, I was raised (liberal) Protestant, in the U.S., and it was weird to me, too. The first time I got asked the baby-eating question, it was very difficult not to just blurt out, "you're kidding me, right?"

From: [identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com

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Well, the extremist prejudice is really, really weird, but the whole concept of Catholicism being viewed as TEH DEVL is odd as well. Muh?
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From: [identity profile] almightychrissy.livejournal.com


It's really weird for me too. I live in the U.S., but in a very Catholic area, and I just don;t understand it. Then again, as one of the very few agnostics/athiests in my school, I tended to have a "me vs. them" view, so perhaps that;s why I don't understand.

One of the craziest things though was when my mother, who was raised Catholic, said that my aunt's family were "Catholics, not Christians." I just sorta blinked because I'd never been to a church in my life, and I knew that Catholics were Christians, but apparently she didn't. *shakes head* Craziness.

I though unbaptized babies went to Limbo? Or is Limbo in hell? I just read this last week, dammit.....

From: [identity profile] redfiona99.livejournal.com


I was taught limbo as well. And as far as Dante goes, limbo is nice, just not as nice as heaven (working on the prinicple that it's not the fault of the babies that died at birth that they weren't baptised)

Christened - Protestant, nursery run by Catholic Nuns, and non-aligned Christian, with the occasional islamic leaning ever since.

From: [identity profile] asilvahalo.livejournal.com


I really do think it's based in politics.

[The] Know-Nothing Movement, a nativist political movement in the United States in the 1850's. It was organized to oppose the great wave of immigrants who entered the United States after 1846. Know-Nothings claimed that the immigrants—who were principally Irish and Roman Catholic threatened to destroy the American experiment. The Roman Catholic church, they charged, was subservient to a foreign prince (the pope), it was growing in power, and it potentially could exert political control over a large group of people. Such nativist sentiments had long existed among many Americans, but they had never before been expressed in such powerful form.


Protestant Americans seem to be distrustful of Catholics for political reasons first, and by now it's come to be a religious thing rather than a political one, but the distrust remains.

From: [identity profile] mydarkstar.livejournal.com


I reeeeally miss the Jack Chick parody page now. Man. (It still exists (http://www.weirdcrap.com/chick/), but due to a threatened lawsuit, they deleted all the ones featuring modified Chick tracts and now only accept hand-drawn ones, which aren't nearly as funny. Poo.)

From: [identity profile] mydarkstar.livejournal.com


Reading the first tract linked - oh, nice. Not only does she take back a man who went to prison for beating her, she then allows him to convert her and her son! "Become a Jesus freak? Well, sure! At least he's not hitting me anymore!" Also:

a) He was only in jail for less than two weeks for beating his wife? Oh, typical.
b) It took him less than a week to completely change his personality? Man, Jesus works fast. Pharmaceutical companies should look into this! "When you want to feel better FAST, try a little JesusTM! "
c) I like how once he's converted, he started shaving and combing his hair regularly. Because heathens have poor personal hygiene, but those who walk with the Lord get salvation and free toiletries for life! Who knew?

From: [identity profile] elfiepike.livejournal.com


those who walk with the Lord get salvation and free toiletries for life! Who knew?

I did. But I was hoping I could keep that a secret. Shh! ^^

From: [identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com

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Too late, the secret is out. And hey, I've been a Christian for five years, where's my free welcome package? I always gte gypped, dammit! ;D

From: [identity profile] elfiepike.livejournal.com


Hey, who said anything about christianity! Clearly we are talking about walking with the Lord here, doofus. :D

From: [identity profile] elfiepike.livejournal.com


does not! how else would i have gotten these brilliant little packets of handkerchiefs? :D

yo, get online that i might chat with you for a moment or two before eating breakist.
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