Melle: *kicks Ann Landers* dude, okay. <<I do not believe it is wise to have your teenage daughters running around nude in front of their father and adolescent brother. >> WHAT THE FUCK?
Tri: Um, you did hear that Ann Landers died, right?
Melle: My dad and brothers have seen me naked THOUSANDS of times! They're not SCARRED or anything, and neiter am I!
Melle: And yes. But I still want to kick her.

From: [identity profile] asilvahalo.livejournal.com


My stepmom once yelled at me for, when we were staying in a hotel (her, me, and my dad in one room), sleeping in just a teeshirt and underwear. Like, for fuck's sake, woman. He's my *dad*. American "nudity" morals are kinda fucked up, man.

And was it Ann Landers or Dear Abby that died?

From: [identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com


That was Ann Landers, yeah.

And yeah, it's just. The fuck? Dude, my family never locks the bathroom door or anything. We always went to nudist camings, and I've often stomped downstairs naked to get my clean underwear from the dryer or whatever. I mean, my dad cuts my hair, and I always take off my shirt and bra to avoid hairs getting on my clothes.

We're not scarred, people. We're not a psycho family or anything.

Sheesh.

From: [identity profile] armistice.livejournal.com


You know, actually? That sounds kinda weird to me. I would never be anywhere near naked around my father. I just wouldn't feel comfortable, even in just a t-shirt and underwear. I wouldn't ever, ever, be anything less than entirely clothed around him. Although, to be fair, I haven't lived with him since I was 10, so that might have something to do with that.

And my sister and I change clothes in front of each other, but we turn our backs. And if my mom is home and I need clothes from the basement, or even from the bathroom (which is about twenty feet from my room), I put clothes on first.

It's not like I'm a prude or anything, I mean, I've been naked in a room with in excess of 20 people in it (locker rooms) and not thought a thing about it. It's just with my family, it's. I'd just be uncomfortable being less than fully clothed around them.

From: [identity profile] asilvahalo.livejournal.com


See me? I ran around partially clothed most of my life (until the aforementioned "teeshirt and underwear does not constitute 'clothing'" incident.), but now I'm very anxious about being fully clothed around *all* guys. Then again, I'm freaky-modest-girl. Seriously. I made the ex shut off the light and shit. I'm very "eek!" and displeased with the me!naked.

The Melle thing sounds a little weird, but healthy. It sounds like a family I know, actually, where there's so many of them, they have very little sense of privacy and used to just change clothes in the liviing room in the morning before school.

From: [identity profile] asilvahalo.livejournal.com


I do, however, run around the house partially-nude if I need to get clean clothes. :)

From: [identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com

Re:


Yeah, I think a lot of it's just a matter of being used to it. I mean, I've seen more naked people than anyone I know, and I have to say, I credit the nudist campings for a lot of my healthy body image, becasue once you've seen what the average person looks like under their clothes, you realise nobody's perfect.

(oddly enough, very few "gorgeous people" seem to go to nudist campins and beaches.)

From: [identity profile] armistice.livejournal.com


Well, yeah, I don't think it's particularly unhealthy to be naked around family, and in fact, it's probably pretty unhealthy to feel like you have to hide your body from them at all times no matter what. It's just something that I'm not used to. Not really something anyone talks about either, unless it's to take the Ann Landers stance.

The other thing I never really got was that "little girls should sleep on the mom's side of the bed, little boys should sleep on the father's side" thing. Like, what? Why? How is simply sleeping next to her father going to screw up a little girl?

From: [identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com

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That's the thing, see. I mean, I understand being uncomforable with it, but what ann Landers is implying, and what that side of the bed thing is implying, is that every guy is going to molest his kids/sisters just because they're naked or whatever.

And that's just so fucked-up, man. I can be naked around my family as much as I like, I know they're still seeing my as their daughter/sister, not as someone to lust after; That's just such a fucked-up idea, y'know?

From: [identity profile] asilvahalo.livejournal.com


Hey man. You ever read Flowers in the Attic. Brother is horny because he's locked in the attic! And he doesn't know any other girls. So instead of jerking off like a normal kid, he bangs his sister. Heh. Because there's no such thing as a guy who doesn't want to bang his relatives in a VC Andrews novel.

From: [identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com

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Well, it's really only my parents and brothers. Extended family I'd be weird around. But mostly, I'm okay. I mean, when Ruth came over, I undressed in front of her, no sweat. (I sleep mostly naked.) I did wear shorts and a shirt when I was sharing a hotel room with Steve in NYC, though.

From: [identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com

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Well. Yes. And also because he's a guy. And stuff. I'd be uncomfortable being naked around most of my male friends, except people like Bram and all, whom I've known since we were babies.

I never said I was completely issue-free.

From: [identity profile] armistice.livejournal.com


Ann Landers just died, like, fairly recently. I think Dear Abby is still kickin' it, but her daughter is writing her advice column or something. But she might be dead, too. Hm.
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