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Have there ever been any fanfic writers who got into legal trouble (or any trouble other than a flame from some parent and a reader who got his internet privildges provoked? Cause i'm getting a tad irritated about all the insistance that minors stay far, far away from the evil slash. One: you did your legal duty when you warned us. No one's likely to be suing you over one lost minor reading your page. Relax a little. Two: unless every last one of your stories is NC-17, demanding we leave your entire site is a bit over the freakin' top. And I swear, no matter how few and far between the ones who actually believe that smut is baaaaad for minors are, they are going to send me into a fucking snit one of these days. Grar!
(Note, btw, how I still count myself among 'us minors', even though according to Belgian law, I've never been of illegal age to read smut. Whoo. Novel concept, huh, slashers from countries outside the US? Fuckers.)
There is a reason none of my list require age statements. I did that quite deliberately, as a way to flip the whole fucking (smut-writing) world the two-fingered salute. It went by unnoticed (duh), but I'm still glad I made it.
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Yeah, some of the warning/age statement demands/etc, do go too far. I'd rather people just define for themselves whether they are old enough -- that's why my entrance graphic simply says "adult content ahead, you know how old you are." Because people generally do.
Hey, it's not like a warning would have stopped me!
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I started reading slash when I was 13, and the first story I ever read was one of Brenda Antrim's M/K ones. Go figure! I don't have the feeling that it had any negative influence on my character development. (My Mum, of course, doesn't agree. *gg*)
Anyway, I guess basically it's not about how old you are, but how mature you feel. There are people who will *never* be old enough to read/view some stuff, and there are others who are ready for it at 11.
The problem is that it's kinda hard to decide for yourself whether you're mature enough or not. Everyone will should, "Of course I am," (pct?) even when they are not. Then again, if parents leave their children to surf the net without guidance at whatever age, I guess then *they* think their kids are mature enough ...
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Not that I, being under 18 would ever do that... never :P
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Not entirely unnoticed. ^_^ And I'm glad you did, too.
Novel concept, huh, slashers from countries outside the US? Fuckers.
*nods* Canada doesn't really have a set age of consent. There's something like a three-year rule for actual sex - ie. if you're fourteen and sleeping with a nineteen-year-old, that's illegal [*raises hand guiltily*], while if you're twelve and sleeping with a fifteen-year-old, that's just peachy. So, I dunno. Maybe I'm allowed to read slash, as long as the characters are nineteen and under?
But my point is, the slash/fanfic community is, by definition, a global one, and shouldn't have to be defined by American laws - especially since theirs seem to be the most unrelenting and [from my point of view] unreasonable.
And.. well, you know how I feel about all this. Maybe I can't really feel any other way, given the position I'm in, but.. yeah. Y'know.
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Ta. ^_^ I know a number of people did muchly appreciate not having to lie about their ages (like, hello, the current listmom! :D), but the fanfic world at large is unaware of rareslash. Which is kinda weird, cause it's a goddamn huge list these days.
(And I miss my intimate little listlet. Sigh. But time moves on.)
Legal age for actual intercourse in Belgium is 16, and we also have the three-year-rule when you're between 16 and 18. (Which, to me, sorta makes sense, you know? Cause 3 years can be a big age gap at that age, and it's so easy for older people to pressure a younger partner into something they're not really ready for.)
I could check out de Sade and other erotic/prnographic novels from the library when I was 14, so I'm assuming that's legal age for reading smut. (I'm not sure, though.) so as I said, I've never done anything illegal for me, and no one could get sued for letting me at the smut, either. (Not that my parents would've sued, but. You know.)
And hey, rant away! =D
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I totally agree
I mean, I've been reading trashy romance novels since I was about ten, and though they weren't as explicit back then as they are now, they were still thought of as pretty racy.
Not to mention I've been reading Jackie Collins (RPFic for the masses with changed names/circumstances/times) since I was fifteen, and everyone thinks she writes such explicit stuff. I just finished her latest one a couple of weeks ago, and although it was a good read and fun to pick who the celeb characters were based on, I've read much more explicit stuff in other books.
But, like some said, I do believe in initial warnings.
I've never required age statements, though on one list I had the over eighteen thing in the descript, only as a CYA, though, I knowingly let someone underage on it, because I thought she could handle it.
Speaking of, did you get my mail about that? I sent it a couple of days ago, and said yes, and that I wanted it on joannec@hwy.com.au, in case you didn't get it.