This thread on HPForGrownUps is starting to get on my nerve. It's entitled "Draco's redemption".

Now, I'm not fond of Just%isunderstood!Draco either. I agree that he's a jerk. But for fuck's sake, 'redemption'? As of now, Draco hasn't really done anything he should 'redeem' himself for. He's a bully, yeah, but speaking as an ex-bully-ee, That doesn't make him evil. Am I overreacting or something? I dunno, it just seriously pisses me off that they'rre judging someone by what he's like at 14. I'm weird. Ignore me.

But while I'm venting, I'd like to send a hearthy "Yeah, fuck you, too!" to the fraction on HP4GU that is of the opinion that the whole SexGod!Draco idea is to blame on fanfic and that no one writing fanfic can have a decent discussion about canon and it. pisses. me. off.


From: [identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com


Oh, Draco's a prick all right. No doubts about that. I think if I met him I'd want to slap him. He's stuck-up and mean, but I don't see him as 'irredeemably' evil. For one thing, he seems like the kind to romanticise the idea of Evil, but I doubt he's willing to get his hands dirty with actual blood.

The glee about Cedric is really the only thing I can see that indicates him being more than Your Average Stuck-Up bully (and really, aren't a lot of people stuck-up in one way or another at that age? I know I was.), and oddly enough that was the one thing I didn't see the really rabit anti-Draco-ists quoting as something they based their opinions on.

Heh. You don't want to hear my Dudley musings. Really.


From: [identity profile] ex-verdandi713.livejournal.com


Well, his age dictates against the "irredeemable" part--plenty of people have ideas and notions at 14 that would horrify them just a few years later--and we don't know as of yet how much of what he says he's parroting from his own father...but just *dismissing* all of it as many of the apologists do is ridiculous in the extreme.

The Cedric thing was just the last straw for me; especially as I rather liked Cedric for his own sake. Don't get me started on *my* Harry/Cedric musings, or we'll be here all day. ;-)

From: [identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com


Well, his age dictates against the "irredeemable" part--plenty of people have ideas and notions at 14 that would horrify them just a few years later--and we don't know as of yet how much of what he says he's parroting from his own father...
There is that, certainly. At 14, I was quiet, shy, and weak. No one who knew me then would believe I'd turn out like this.

but just *dismissing* all of it as many of the apologists do is ridiculous in the extreme.
Definitely agreed. There's a number of indications in the book that Draco really worships Lucius, and I personally think he's really romanticising the whole idea of Evil. In book one or two, there's the scene with the dring unicorn, where Draco runs screaming. Ever since then, I've been convinced that at some time in the future, Draco would be confronted with what being a Death Eater is really all about, and he'll see that it's not all glamour and glory and chasing muggles.

Whichever way he goes, though, I cannot see him as 'nice'. If (if!) he joins the 'good' side, he'd be like Snape, only worse.

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