So. I had a good time. Boggled at how tall some of these 'little boys' had become. Swam a lot. [My poor acking shoulders!] Spent all evening lying on a bunch of matresses, snoozling in my sleeping bag, watching tv. Informed B. that "There is more to sex between two men than anal intercourse, you know." Would have gone into details, but there were small-ish children present.

Am now back, and seriously planning to get out of *NSync fandom altogether. I don't need another fandom in which disagreement is frowned upon mightily. So not ready for that yet. Just gonna say this:

Yo! People! Helen! I am 'on Ruth's side' in this discussion, okay? She said exactly what I was trying to say, namely that you're writing RPS, and denying it makes you seem cowardish and more than slightly juvenile. Also, nobody ever said Metalica or Ben Affleck slash is 'better' than boysband slash. We're just saying, it's all RPS. It's all the same level of 'wrongness'.

Accept it.


From: [identity profile] wax-jism.livejournal.com

er


dude, seriously. we know that we're writing RPS, and we're okay with it, but we, or I, since this is just me talking, think it's not an *issue*. not militant about it. and get slightly upset when other people try to tell us what to think. I never had issues with RPS. thought it was uninteresting, just a little squirmworthy until I sat down and actually read some, after which I got over myself. so. just don't make it an issue. cause it's not.

again. not in denial. know Justin is real person, etc.

I don't know why this is such a big deal. also, the impression I got was that helen was just being funny. not particularly serious. so, um. why the big furor. and stuff.

moving on.

wax jism, going off to entertain more smutty fantasies about real people

From: [identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com

Re: er


The reason I'm having issues is that Helen, as far as I can see, is still not even vagualy seeing what we're trying to say. I don't care if you wanna stay out of the whole anti-debate, but fucking christ, don't even jokingly deny what you're doing. It hurts people, including me.

From: [identity profile] wax-jism.livejournal.com

Re: er


but um. dude. the moment we stop being allowed or able to make fun of all this crud, it stops being fun. and fun is the only reason I'm in it. and I'm not sure what other reasons there could be. er, it's ... fanfic about celebrities? it's pretty unbearably funny. god help me if I ever take it seriously.

I take writing seriously, not fandom.

From: [identity profile] arkane156.livejournal.com


So are you guys pissed at me for semi-taking Helen's side? Actually, it's not so much that I have anything for or against Helen in particular (never met her), or NSync slash as a genre (wouldn't know those guys if they jumped out of my soup, except for the pics of them I've seen in Ang's journal), but it just seems like there are more deserving people to get pissed off at than her. I mean, as far as I could tell she wasn't being judgemental about RPS, and if we get all snarky with our quasi-compadres, all it does is make them less inclined to sympathize with us. Yeah, christ knows I haven't always been very good about this myself, but at least I'm trying. Or maybe I'm just totally talking out of my ass, since I'm not involved in NSync fandom, and don't know what's gone on before now that might have pushed everybody over the edge. Blah, blah blah...

From: [identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com


It's not the fact that she's 'against' RPS that bothers me, it's that she doesn't seem t understand our point at. all. and that practically bit Ruth's head off and put words in her mouth that she never even vagualy implied.

Also, see my next entry for my reasons for sticking to my guns about this. :/

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