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wibbble and elance to watch B5. World Without End fucked me up something bad (old friend!!!!!!! And Sinclair/Garibaldi OMG!), and now I'm going to watch season four. If you don't hear from me by tomorrow, I may have imploded. The way this series is going, it's a rather likely possibility.
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The first six episodes of season 4 are so Centauri-and-Narn centric that you won't survive without imploding, that's to be sure....
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Tell me about it. Londo saying "Are you there, old friend" and then G'Kar came out of the shadows and I just went "OMGWTFBBQ?"
(Dear JMS: OMG! So much love, Melle)
I started to suspect that Sinclair = Valen pretty early on, but yeah, it's still pretty shocking.
Implosion only narrowly avoided. Check back tomorrow. Wibble.
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And you know, so many fanfics let mortal enemies go to best friends and more, but this is one time where it happens in canon. One of these days I'll write an essay about why this works on B5 and rarely in fanfic (my main argument being: Because JMS takes his time to show how it happens, and besides, isn't afraid to make it worse (in season 2 and 3) before it becomes better...
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Right now, G'Kar's still mostly "You don't exist in my world", and Londo is, well, Londo.
(And Vir is Vir and I love him, but that's another tangent.)
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G'Kar is in denial *g*. By the end of that season, Londo will offer to give him sexual pointers (I kid you not). Anyway, those prison scenes were incredibly intense, weren't they?
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And now I'm at the point where G'Kar and Londo first come to Centauri Prime and my brain will NOT stop playing the theme from The Bodyguard. Argh?
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He. Well, it's my theory that JMS had a secret list with all slash clichés stashed somewhere and looked it up from time to time to be sure he incorporated them all with Londo & G'Kar's arc. I mean, trapped in an elevator, prison cell scenes, torture, bodyguard...
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And your icon is NOT helping!
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To be fair, Londo is probably the most touch-friendly person on the station. He grabs Vir's chin two weeks after meeting him (Born to the Purple), and constantly puts his hands on people's shoulders and arms. Why, he does it even when he can't stand G'Kar (also in Born to the Purple, when thanking him for his "help" in finding Adira, or in By Any Means Necessary, when innocently asking whether he could help) .
On a less rational level: yep. And he interprets the simple instruction "run" as "stand there and look worried". G'Kar's interpretation of the term "bodyguard" is of course open to debate...
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On a less rational level: yep. And he interprets the simple instruction "run" as "stand there and look worried".
You forgot "pound on the door and call out G'Kar's name." I fell of the chair at that point.
G'Kar's interpretation of the term "bodyguard" is of course open to debate...
G'Kar's definition of "bodyguard", as far as I've been able to tell, consists of sleeping in Londo's room (fully clothed?!?) and being all worried about Londo even though he's the one who's just fought off several guys with knives.
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Better sit on the floor for all the episodes from All my dreams, torn assunder to Fall of Centauri Prime, because what he does there, and what G'Kar does, is... well, you'll see.
G'Kar's definition of "bodyguard", as far as I've been able to tell, consists of sleeping in Londo's room (fully clothed?!
You did notice there is just one bed there, didn't you?*g*
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ARGH! Okay, sit on the floor, with tissues ready for Fall of Centauri Prime, right.
I'm going to die, aren't I?
You did notice there is just one bed there, didn't you?*g*
... I kind of assumed G'Kar was sleeping on the couch. MUST RE-WATCH EPISODE NOW.
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I'm afraid so. I still die, even after numerous viewings, though I can't do it too often. Best and most painful episode of the show, if you ask me.
On a more cheerful note:
I kind of assumed G'Kar was sleeping on the couch.
That's not what the Royal Court assumes. When Londo & G'Kar return to Centauri Prime, that one minister says stuff like whether they should wait "till you and your... companion have had a bath".
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<3
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BTW, once you're done with season 5, you have to watch the B5 TV movie In the Beginning, which is narrated by Londo and which is where you meet my unfortunate historian Luc Deradi as a kid...
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(Londo and G'Kar in the palace, discussing the fact that half the palace staff thinks they're together. G'Kar is most amused and cunningly encourages them. Bweeee!)
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L: A symbol? And you tried that one on G'Kar?
D: Yes.
L: And he fell for it?
D: Completly.
L: Well, I suppose etc.
Anyway, Delenn has my eternal gratitude for thinking of the bodyguard thing to begin with. Given her idea that former mortal enemies can be reconciled vial having sex with each other, you can't tell me she's not up to something...
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Yes! Because she somehow makes them both thing they got something over the other! Let me tell you, I would not want to get in Delenn's way, she's a sneaky one if she wants to be.
Given her idea that former mortal enemies can be reconciled vial having sex with each other, you can't tell me she's not up to something...
Wait, what? o_O
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One prime example of Delenn's talent in this regard you'll see some eps later when Sheridan starts a quarrel firmly convinced he's in the right, since she went behind his back etc., and ends up totally outmanoeuvred, to which JMS commented that the Jesuits have nothing on religous caste Minbari in their prime.*g*
Given her idea that former mortal enemies can be reconciled vial having sex with each other, you can't tell me she's not up to something...
Wait, what? o_O
See: her marriage with Sheridan and her way of believing he was her destiny. (Bear in mind here not just the Earth/Minbari war but the fact that Delenn is personally responsible for giving the "kill them all" order.) The parallels between Sheridan/Delenn and Londo/G'Kar are definitely there, and methinks Delenn would see them.
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(Of course, she can never talk to Sheridan about this. She'd be all "It worked for us" while he'd be begging Lyta to take the bad mental image from his brain. :D)
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I don't think G'Kar ever does forgive Londo, but he pities him and sees that Londo has suffered enough. No forgiveness, but there needs to be an end so that both their races can move forward, and them dying like that provides that end. (Combined with Vir's resistance movement, and his subsequent rise to emperor.)
I think that by the end they've both just seen too much together to be true enemies, but too much has happened for them to be true friends, either.
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Yes he does, in what is The Best Scene Ever, their farewell in The Fall of Centauri Prime. "I cannot forgive your people, but I can forgive you" is pretty much unambiguous, and besides, if Londo's challenge is to say "I'm sorry", which he does in The very long night of Londo Mollari, G'Kar's challenge is to say "I forgive you" - which he says in The Fall of Centauri Prime.
Moreover, JMS used the word "best friend" in his short story The Shadow of his Thoughts (about Londo a few days post-coronation), and you can't get a higher authority on the subject than the Great Maker himself.