OMG, Riika, look! :D

Man, okay, Subject Line That Makes You Sit Up And Take Notice: "Goblin Slash". Thanks, Amy! :D

Aaaand more interview questions, this time from [livejournal.com profile] slippery_fish:

1. You have to retell one myths/legend/fairy tale (doesn't matter which kind) in a fanfiction, which myths do you choose, which fandom and why?

I've actually done this sort of thing before, mostly in fandoms I refuse to acknowledge anymore. Spur of the moment, I'd like to see what I can do with Oedipus and Harry Potter. Or HP and any myth centered around the inevitability of Fate.

2. One thing you would never tell your family?

... I don't think there is anything I'd not tell my family, to be honest. I've told them about everything so far, though not necessarily in detail. I may put off telling them certain things, but I do tell them in the end.

3. Did you ever leave a fandom because the flame wars or fandom members annoyed you too much?

Not really as a concious decision, but yes, it's happened. Metallica fandom, for one, lost its attraction to me because of the list wars and crap.

4. Do you still take part in RPF discussions or did you stop caring?

I no longer take part in the discussions because I didn't stop caring, which is why it drives me nuts when people cannot come up with new arguments against RPF, which is why I now avoid RPF discussions like the plague. Mostly.

5. The worst thing someone could do in fandom is?

Taking fannish/online flame wars and arguments into the "real" world. LIke outing someone to their boss as a HP slasher and thus losing that person their job. There's a line, and that line is drawn where the consequences of actions reach into RL.


From: [identity profile] riikkarocks.livejournal.com


OMFG! *worships Amanda*

(And neither of you can apparently get my name right. I'm fucking amused. :D)

From: [identity profile] i-amthecosmos.livejournal.com


Whoops. Sorry babe.

It's about half or two-thirds done. I have to write the sex and the ending. Right now Duff's not giving Slash the time of day. I left in Axl getting his ass beat and "You say the sweetest things". Oh, and it's all original Guns, from Stephen on down. That was my favorite line up, so there you go.

I'll need to rotate my Duff icon back in. This is fun!

From: [identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com


Yes you do! There need to be more Duff icons on my friendslist!

From: [identity profile] riikkarocks.livejournal.com


Nah, I'm used to it by now. ;)

Anyway, holy fuck this sounds fabulous! Original GN'R is my favorite too, even though Adler and I really don't get along. *g*

Also, yes. Everyone needs some Duff in their life!

From: [identity profile] bishounenhuntrs.livejournal.com


5. The worst thing someone could do in fandom is?

Taking fannish/online flame wars and arguments into the "real" world. LIke outing someone to their boss as a HP slasher and thus losing that person their job. There's a line, and that line is drawn where the consequences of actions reach into RL.


Yes, this is beyond dishonorable IMO.

BTW, hi. I know you from F_W.
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From: [identity profile] slippery-fish.livejournal.com


More questions regarding 4) because I think it's really interesting how different RPF writers' perspective on/feelings towards RPF are.

4) And what kind of RPF discussions still pull you into them? When you see a new argument? Or when you see something extremely annoying?

Could you think of an arguemt against RPF that could make you change your opinion? An have you ever felt so uncomfortable with RPF that you considered quitting? Like the slash writers who find God and quit slash...

From: [identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com


Right, will try my best to at least pretend to be coherent, here.

The last time I was pulled into a discussion, it wasn't even a discussion, but an out-and-out argument. Somebody on f_w said something about RPF that was truly obnoxious and I'd had a bad day, and I just snapped.

Last proper discussion I've had about it was years ago--I don't really hang out in anti-RPS circles anymore, most of the people I hang out with these days are either RPSers themselves, or don't care for it but don't really care that others write it. RPS is no longer this generally-accepted-as-taboo thing, shich is quite different from The Old Days.

I don't know if you were around back then (this would've been ... early 2000 to mid-late-2001, I think), but thing really were very different back then, and as an RPS writer who publically posted her RPS stories, it was almost unavoidable that I'd get into RPS discussions all the time.

And really, what annoyed me was the self-righteousness of the antis, and the hypocricy. And of course the fatc that all their arguments came down to the same basic things: "RPS is ILLEGAL and you're going to GET US ALL SUED!" (see also my answer to [livejournal.com profile] wibbble about being willing to go to court over my RPS), "RPS is IMMORAL, it's RAPE, it's STALKING, it's WRONG!", etc.

I used to be willing to discuss the subject with people as long as they were genuinly interested in my point of view, rather than being determined to make me see how wrong I was. Still am, I suppose, to some extent. I don't know that anything could make me change my mind about RPS in general, though seeing the subjects of my RPS IRL does tend to screw with my head a bit, for a while at least. Kinda blurs the lines between the actual persons and the versions of them in my head, if that makes sense.

And heh, I found god long ago (he was under my bed :D), so no worries about that with me. ^_^
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From: [identity profile] slippery-fish.livejournal.com


I don't know if you were around back then (this would've been ... early 2000 to mid-late-2001, I think), but thing really were very different back then, and as an RPS writer who publically posted her RPS stories, it was almost unavoidable that I'd get into RPS discussions all the time.

That was the time when I got into writing RPS. I only posted it on a yahoo group so I never really had to face the discussions. And if I saw them I mostly ignored them because, like you mentioned, it are the same old arguments over and over again. I think I was only in 2 RPS discussions...:D It's weird to see how much everything has changed. I mean, there are still discussions but it really seems to be less of a big deal now...


I don't know that anything could make me change my mind about RPS in general, though seeing the subjects of my RPS IRL does tend to screw with my head a bit, for a while at least. Kinda blurs the lines between the actual persons and the versions of them in my head, if that makes sense.

And how much sense that makes. It feels the same to me. It's really weird...


From: [identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com


Yeah, it's so weird to remember back when RPS was ths big taboo, and then there was RS-X and Ben/Matt, and the other handful of proper RPS fandoms, and the popslash hit and things were never the same again.

I actually remember predicting, way back then, that slash fandom, in the end, would end up divided between the rabid antis and the people who either were RPSers themselves or just didn't care. Clearly I am a visionary! :D
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From: [identity profile] slippery-fish.livejournal.com


You so are! :D

But it seems like that's how fandom works every time. When HP slash hit many people freaked out about chanslash, when fandom_wank appeared it was the end of fandom.

From: [identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com


Also, and somewhat related to chanslash, underaged slashers, which suddenly became a big topic for a while once online fandom hit its momentum and suddenly it was no longer possible to limit slash to over-18-year-olds, and the underagers came out of the closet (so to speak).
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From: [identity profile] slippery-fish.livejournal.com


I guess that still ends up a hot topic sometimes when it comes to yahoo groups and password protected websites. It's kind of funny because I think a lot of those who try to protect themselves from any parents related trouble probably started to read slash when they were underaged as well.

But I can understand those worries. It probably can get a bit too hot when parents get all pissed of about their childrens' reading preferences. Although that's hardly the problem of the slashers.

From: [identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com


Yeah, I can understand the legal (and societal) worries, though I don't necessarily share them, but when people start trying to tell me that underaged teenagers are all "kids" and "kids" shouldn't read smut lest they get OMGCORRUPTED, that bugs. Seriously, have these people been teenagers? Or was my class exceptionally obsessed with sex?
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From: [identity profile] slippery-fish.livejournal.com


Yeah, that's kind of weird. Being a teenager means, at least partly, that you get interested in sex. And get a bit obsessed with the topic. Teenager tend to corrupt themselves, they don't need help for that.

From: [identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com


Seriously. I mean, did these people never read Harlequinn romance novels for the naughty bits? (I graduated to de Sade at the ripe old age of fourteen, but then I was a premature child in that regard.) Same thing with the anti-incestfic brigade. Flowers in the Attic, anyone?
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From: [identity profile] slippery-fish.livejournal.com


I never read that stuff but I got into fanfic as a teenager so I guess that's a good replacement...:D
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