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- Krezip - I Would Stay
- Sinead O'Connor - Nothing Compares 2 U
- Prince - Nothing Compares 2 U
- The Radios - assorted songs
- Assorted oldies
- ABBA - assorted songs
- K's Choice - assorted songs
- Assorted Kinderen Voor Kinderen songs
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jintro and sileas is going to understand how utterly random that last one is, but dude. I grew up on these songs, and I even performed En Ik, En Ik, En Ik when I did my Lentefeest (equivalent to er ... First Communion? something like that)(I was the skinny one -- How things have changed, heh.). (And I'm just realising again how very Dutch a lot of these songs are.)
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So you celebrated both your 6th year and twelfth year with a special fest? That's cool. I had to sing in church and sit through an entire mass at 6. Boooring.
Dude, you people are rich!
Nah. My mom and dad didn't want my brother and I to go to those lessons before communion. I forgot what they were called, but students had to go to people from the village and be brainwashed and overwhelmed by the catholic belief.
One of those people was rumored to be a pedophile and my mother didn't want us to go so she promised us money if we didn't go. *yippee*
Also, we got no easter or birthday money that year...
I got a boke both times
Cool. That's a more personal gift than the money I got.
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Heh. I was in the Chiro when I was about seven, and because this was back when we still lived in Hingene (small, very conservative town), we went to church every other Sunday or so. At least, I clearly remember going at least five times in the three months I was in it. And of course, all the kids except me and my brother would go for communion. That was one of the reasons I eventually quit.
My brother wasn't bothered by it, but I felt singled out and embarassed, especially because people kept asking me why I didn't go, and made me feel silly for not going because I felt it wouldn't be right to go when I a) didn't really specifically believe in the Christian god, b) empathically didn't believe in the dogmas of the Catholic Church, and c) wasn't even baptised. (Yeah, I was a very morally concientuous seven-year old. :) My mum said I should just go if it really bothered me, but understood when I said it'd bother me more if I would go.
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I used to live in a small conservative town also and I always had the feeling that we were singled out because
a)my parents weren't married
b) we haven't lived in that town for centuries like the other families
c)I didn't do plechtige communie.
(Yeah, I was a very morally concientuous seven-year old. :)
LOL. Your parents must have had some hard questions from you. :-D
My nephew got baptized at 5 and only because she wanted him to go to a catholic school and in order to fit in he had to do the communion. (the school also never gave any information beside the communion ritual, nothing about a Lentefeest).
My nephew does believe in God and Jezus and whatever more, but it's only because he's told all that shit in school. My mother doesn't discourages it but tells him that the school isn't right all the time (did I tell you my mother hates schools and teachers?, that was real fun when she had to go to school to pick up my report card. The teachers were always nice to me afterwards!).
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My mum can be really scary when teachers mistreat her kids. My brother was diagnosed as being "gifted" (152 IQ), and my parents tried to get the teachers to accomodate for that -- give him extra, more difficult work, that sort of stuff. Unfortunately, a lot of teachers took it as a personal insult that mly brother is so smart (they did this to me, too, which was why we didn't tell the teachers at my new school), and in one case, a teacher sneered at my brother, "You think you're so smart, huh?"
Not something you say to a gifted kid. (It's hard enough to fit in when you're smarter than your classmates, without the teachers resenting you too.) Never seen my mum that furious.
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*grin* Your parents must have had a blast with two gifted kids. Especially in puberty. :-D
and my parents tried to get the teachers to accomodate for that -- give him extra, more difficult work, that sort of stuff.
*winces* Lucky my mother never did that. :-D
and in one case, a teacher sneered at my brother, "You think you're so smart, huh?"
*winces* Reminds me of the time a teacher thought I was lying because I said that I didn't study for certain exams. She never listened to me afterwards or even looked at me. *shrugs*
My electronics teacher always flunked me on my exams because I was never listening to what he said. He really couldn't teach so I got confused when he explained it so I read a couple of books on the subject to catch up.
And you're right, that's no way to treat your brother or you. But unfortunately, that's mainly what happens in highschool. You're just a tad different (from another town, don't speak the right accent) and they target you. Highschool is so much fun!
So you changed school in the middle of your highschool carreer? I myself never did that or never changed my class. If I look back at it, I realize that perhaps I should have changed school and classes for something more chalenging. But I'm a habit creature. Once I'm settled , I usually don't go walking very far.
Never seen my mum that furious.
*grin* Glad your mom kicked some butt.
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Three gifted kids, really. Me, 134; OYB (Oldest Younger Brother), 128, YYB (Youngest Younger Brother), 152. And OYB and I are only 2.5 years apart, so we went through puberty around the same time. Then again, OYB wasn't really the inquiring mind -- possibly because I did all the asking. :D
*winces* Lucky my mother never did that. :-D
Eh. I've been through the same thing as my brother, so I do think he needs extra attention to make sure he develops a study method, or he'll be in the same kind of trouble I was in when going to uni. The thing is, the high school he (we) used to go to is small, and the teachers don't have much experience with really gifted children.
So you changed school in the middle of your highschool carreer?
The HS we went to only went up to fourth year in ASO, so we pretty much had to change. I changed after third year (in the middle of a grade -- BAD idea) because of being bullied and the aftermath of that (details here, in case you care), and my brothers both changed after second year. They also changed class, whereas I did Latin (And Latin-Maths, later) all through HS.
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Parents proud? Or were they afraid? (and err. sorry for asking all the personal questions. You're eh... interesting and it's easy to talk to you somehow)
My parents were pretty much afraid that I did too well. My brother isn't gifted so they didn't openly praise me at anything. Instead, they praised him when he finally studied for a change.
so I do think he needs extra attention to make sure he develops a study method, or he'll be in the same kind of trouble I was in when going to uni.
*nods* Study methods weren't that deveoped yet when I went to highschool, but nowadays schools pay more attention to it, so I hope he finds a method that suits him. I think in the class 'leefsleutels' that they perhaps get education in the study methods. I'm not sure as it was only introduced when I was in the last grade and was already to old for it.
I myself don't have a study method except for : 'I'll study on the bus to school'. I do very well under pressure.
The HS we went to only went up to fourth year in ASO, so we pretty much had to change.
The highschool closest to me had that too. My mother decided to throw me 16 kilometers further in a totally unknown city with no friends whatsoever. I was supposed to sit in class with the brother from hell, but he broke his arm, so I went alone for a month till he joined me and stayed in the same class for three years. (total classtime with brother : 12 years)
Maths is good. :-D did techniek-wetenschappen. I didn't like physics or chemistry because of the teachers ,but biology and one mathteacher was real good.
I've wanted to do language-maths in ASO but that didn't exist anywhere near me. So *shrugs* I plombed down there and sat out 6 years of boring classes. (except for the ones where I could blow up things in the lab and scare the shit out of my labpartner!! *big evil grin*)
because of being bullied and the aftermath of that
*gives big big big big hug*
I'm sorry you had to go through that. You look a lot like me, as far as I can tell. Except that I didn't ran away for real and that I didn't get bullied to that extent. I can't imagine the loneliness you felt when going to England. And the confusion of a new place without anyone you know. *hugs again*
I was in a pretty tolerant class from the beginning. And the others could always rely on me to have articles, books and knowledge for a bookreport or spreekbeurt. I saved my own ass by reading more than they did. So in the end, classmates started to respect me but the others in the school didn't.
I was struck by the similarities between us. Only one good friend in highschool who betrayed us in some way, being bullied,and the shyness when meeting people and parents who just don't notice. I think you could write my memoirs and only get one or two details wrong.
Anyway. *hugs hugs hugs*
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's Okay, I don't mind talking about things. ^_^ My parents were ... well, proud, but also afraid because they (especially with YYB) knew what kind of problems we'd be facing.
Dude, I can't imagine being in the same class as my brother. I think a lot of the teachers who taught all thre of us must've been really confued, because we're all pretty different.
Anyway. *hugs hugs hugs*
Thanks. :)