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[bubosquared]

Link from viggorlijah, bold mine for emphasis:

Beating with a rod is not acceptable to modern psychologists who think they know better than God. These false teachers view spanking as a form of violence, of child abuse. Well, it is indeed a mild, restrained use of force and pain (not violence); but it is not child abuse. It is a carefully administered dose of superficial injury which is designed to bring about repentance and a change of behavior. We know it is restrained since the proverb tells us that the child beaten with the rod "will not die."

I'm sorry? It's only abuse when the kid may/might die? WTF?

For a parent to resort to spanking when a child is reaching the limits of his or her ability in a task is a form of child abuse (though no concern of the state).

It is a concern of the state when you abuse your child, because then you're violating the child's rights, and the primary duty of the government is to protect people's rights!

Many parents, mine included, have used a hefty leather belt. This choice can be quite effective. The only danger is if the parent gets a bit carried away and strikes the child with the buckle (this happened to the boy next door once - big ouch!).

*speechless* "Big ouch"? When you're hit with a belt buckle, that's a lot more than just a "big ouch", yo!

As to the spanking itself. It should be carried out in private to focus the attention of the child on the parent and to eliminate any other influences (not to mention the threat of hotline calls if you discipline in public).

I'm not even saying anything to this. Just. WTF?

God has designed an area of the body to receive corporal punishment. The back, the buttocks and the back of the upper legs are a safe place for a beating since there are no vital body parts that may accidentally be injured in the process, and the latter two parts are preferable since they are farther from the head and have more natural "padding" (and are less likely to be visible to anyone else in case the "stripes" remain a while).

Okay. Setting aside the asasine logic that a certain part of the body was "designed" to be hit, the back is certainly not a "safe place" to hit someone. Even BDSM people know not to aim for the back, because you could seriously damage someone's kidneys by doing this.

And let's not even get ito the whole "hitting your kids is good, but you should hide it anyway" logic.

A spanking is supposed to hurt! Mere tapping with the rod, or spanking through layers of clothing and diapers, will not be effective.

If a kid is young enough to still be wearing diapers, I honestly do not want to imagine them being "spanked" to the point of leaving marks for days. Really.

The pain is what God uses to break the will and produce a submissive spirit.

This is where I really get angry. Because I'm Christian, and I cannot believe in a god that would give us free wil and then want us to ignore it, and to break that free will in our children. And I hate when people use God and the bible to justify their own agenda; in this case: to have a child that is not a person in and of its own, but a clay puppet to be moled to the parents' desire.

And to top it all off, there's the title of the book on the bottom of the page: Child Training Tips. They are not PUPPIES!

Comments

[i-amthecosmos.livejournal.com]

Hell, I was switched as a child(this means I was hit on the back of the legs and butt with a small tree or bush branch. They were thin,and they hurt). The worst part is my mom would make us break off the branch and bring it to her. I could never get one loose, and one time I had the nerve to ask for scissors.

Welts for days, I tell you.

My folks gave up the belt idea after my sister got hit with the buckle-they felt terrible. My folks aren't bad people, they thought that was what you were supposed to do. Nobody told them there was any other way to punish kids besides spanking or switching. Mom say now she wished she'd heard of time outs, she would have used them and left spanking as a last resort.

[darksong.livejournal.com]

There's a huge world of difference between swatting your kid on the butt and actually injuring them to the point of leaving marks (bruises, welts, whatever). I think most intelligent parents know this...but having actual instructions on how to properly beat your child is just sick.

[slippery-fish.livejournal.com]

Right now I wanna beat the person who wrote this shit...

[sonatine.livejournal.com]

People are fucked up. I was swatted on the butt as a kid, but when you actually bring out belt buckles and switches, I think that's grounds for criminal charges. And telling people HOW to discipline their children is just... what the fuck? Are people really that ignorant and submissive to blind authority?