More blathering.

[bubosquared]

Like asilvahalo, I don't really believe I'm going to get sued. But if I do, it's going to be on my fucking head, people. Mine. Okay? I do not speak for the slash community, and I fucking refuse to be 'resonsible' for its well-being? Because communities bounce back from a lot.

I'm 'out' as a slasher and as an RPSer to my family, to my friends, to even my coworkers. I guess, yeah, I'm doing my part to make fanfic of all kinds more public. But you know, I think slash, even and especially RPS, is a lot less private than people would like to think. My coworker'd heard of it and come across it. Sex Pistols and Metallica fanfic has been publicised in Q Magazine. There's been numerous mentions of FPS and RPS in the press.

We are 'out', folks. And the sky hasn't fallen. Yet? Perhaps. In any way, it's not my job to hold it up.

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There have been books...

[lovelypoet.livejournal.com]

FPS is one of the two major subjects of Contance Penley's "Nasa/Trek"

It spends about fifty pages talking about early fandom and the development of K/S slash and the growth of 'zine publications.

If a mass market publication with illustrations of Kirk and Spock doing naughty things didn't make the sky fall... then I highly doubt any of this is going to either.

[(Anonymous)]

RPS cheerfully made the London Times for godsakes. The only ones who cared were the antis.

[asilvahalo.livejournal.com]

See, the thing is, normal every day people think if RPS pretty much the same way they think of 13 year old girls writing stories about going to the prom with Justin Timberlake. It's clearly a fantasy written by somebody who's a little obsessed, but you know, whatever. And then they go about their lives. The only people, in my mind, who seem to care, are FPS-ers. Who somehow see what we're writing and what that previously mentioned 13 year old are writing as different. Which is kinda hilarious.

See, I'm totally cool with people who, you know, are morally opposed to RPS because of it's treatment of people as characters. Because I mean, I have a friend who used to write Curefic and stopped beause she was weirded out that she was treating Robert & co. as characters. And you know, that's all well and good, because it's a personal. moral. decision. And it mainly is just sort of a "I didn't like the way I was thinking about them." and so they stop, but they pretty much don't care if other people do it. However,t he majority of FPSers opposed to RPS seem to be so in the "you're gonna get us all in trouble" mindset. Which is stupid because, you know, RPS is so much more visible than FPS. *snark*

Re: There have been books...

[bubosquared.livejournal.com]

Ooh. Is this book for sale on Amazon? I may use this tidbit in the next version of the fmo.

[bubosquared.livejournal.com]

Exactly. The general public does. not. care. about RPS, and so celebrities won't care either, because it's the general public's opinion/image of them they care about. Sueing an RPSer will damage their image with the general public, which is another reason not to do it. Aside from the fact that I'm not that sure they'd win anyway.

[bubosquared.livejournal.com]

Exactly. It's like, I don't eat meat, but it doesn't bother me that other people do. Cause I'm me and everyone else has different moral codes than mine, you know.

It's the "You'll get us all into trouble' I have serious problems with, myself. It's like when feminists tell me I'm 'hurting the cause' by wearing short skirts to exams to take advantage of men's chauvinism. I will fight for what I believe in (and not merely for what others believe to be the good of a group I happen to belong to, like women or homosexuals or whatever), the way I think is best. I'm not resonsible for the world, yo. No one is.

Re: There have been books...

[lovelypoet.livejournal.com]

Yes it is, relatively inexpensive (it's a small paperback). I'd send you my copy but I no longer have it. A friend of mine did her honors thesis this past year on fanfiction and I gave it to her. I really need to go pick up a new copy myself.

The first half of the book talks about the ways in which NASA used the cultures obsession with Star Trek for PR and deals a lot with the Challenger Disaster and then it segues into discussion of Fan Culture around Kirk/Spock slash mostly talking about the old 'zine publications but it does delve into the "new" trend of internet fic. It's a few years old obviously.

I firmly believe that one of the illustrations overestimates Kirk :-)