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Sofie 'Melle' Werkers ([personal profile] bubosquared) wrote2002-10-02 02:08 pm
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To: Poppy Z Brite
From: A bewildered ex-fan
Re: This

Yo

WTF? I concur with Ang. your badge of coolness is revoked. Here, have a "Big Fat Hypocrite" one instead.

(Oh and incidentally, it is entirely possible to be biologically female, male-gendered, and yet not rag on women, you know. Just a thought. If you don't believe me, there's this mate of mine you ought to meet.)

Absolutely no love whatsoever,
Melle

[identity profile] darksong.livejournal.com 2002-10-02 07:01 am (UTC)(link)
I think Poppy is a pretty good writer and mostly a nice person (with the couple indirect encounters I've had with her online). I do, however, pretty much think she's a freak, and not so much in a good way.

She has strong opinions, and I don't think she necessarily thinks them through before she says them. I think she likes to try to antagonize people.

I do think it's silly of her to say that slash isn't valid, especially when the books of hers I've read seem to put across the idea you can only find true love and happiness in a male homosexual relationship.

I do agree with your comment on her ragging on women, though--I do think that even if she regards herself as being of the male gender, there's still a part of her that is female. I think we as a society are too busy trying to put things into black and white terms. You can be both, and there's nothing wrong with that.

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[identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com 2002-10-03 10:13 am (UTC)(link)
I really don't like people who say things just to rile others up. I mean, what's the point? Wow, you're brave enough to say a really obnoxious thing you don't even believe in and upset people. How admireable. (I got this a lot on the 'deth boards, and it still annoys me to hell.)

And yeah, I think she's trying to assret herself as "male" by ragging on women, which is just stupid. My best friend's FTM, and I've never seen this behaviour from him. Plus, PZB, as far as I know, doesn't physically identify as/look like a man, so the outside world will still treat her like a woman, whichis bound to give her at least some sort of "female outlook" on life, so WTF was that</i< all about? Will stop rambling now.

[identity profile] usual.livejournal.com 2002-10-02 07:18 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, mate, could be worse. Eat it, eat it, get yourself an egg and beat it...

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[identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com 2002-10-02 08:33 am (UTC)(link)
Shut uuuup!

[identity profile] armistice.livejournal.com 2002-10-02 11:39 am (UTC)(link)
See, I'd read that article before, though I'm not sure where or when, and it never occurred to me to be offended by it. Think about it. The very first bit of slash I read was a very bad ST:TNG fic that I stumbled upon. The next ten or so stories I read were also very bad. If I hadn't been 13, and I'd actually realized that they were bad, I probably would have branded all slash as bad writing and moved back to het.

She hasn't read much slash. I'm betting that what she has read were of average ff.net quality. And having that impression of slash fiction, I wouldn't want anything I'd written to be labelled as "slash" either. She probably isn't aware that people think of the definition of "slash" in such broad terms, and she may not even know that RPS exists (and since both of her slash stories were RPS...)

As for her gender issues, well. She doesn't like being a woman, she doesn't feel like a woman, and she wants everyone and their mother to know it. She gets that across by being as derivative toward females as she can be without alienating the majority of her audience. It's not cool, and it's really very childish, but. She's got issues.

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[identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com 2002-10-02 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, one of my best friends is FTM transgendered, so I do know about these things, and that's why it ticks me off. It reminds me of these slash stories where the boys suddenly start slagging off women to "justify" being with a guy. It makes no sense to me.

someone should remind Ms. Brite

[identity profile] icanreadyourmnd.livejournal.com 2002-10-03 04:13 pm (UTC)(link)
that she has a HUGE on-line fandom and that she, at one time, was a new author. I remember when cause I was there for it ... her old Abyss editor now runs a New England writing program and sends graduated authors my way for representation.

whether she gets slash or not is her problem, putting it down however is a problem. Porn is porn. And some of it is damn good. Period.

By teh way, Melle-ski, how's your novel coming and did you get your copy of the signed contract in the mail yet?

Re: someone should remind Ms. Brite

[identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com 2002-10-04 02:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Ack! I sent that off at least a month ago, airmail! It has't gotten there yet?

I got it from you, signed them and

[identity profile] icanreadyourmnd.livejournal.com 2002-10-04 02:16 pm (UTC)(link)
sent you back a fully-signed and executed copy ... I assume YOU haven't received your copy then? I sent it .... (flips thru author files) ... in early September so it should have either gotten therre already or will get there wery wery soon. If you don't get it in like, another week or so, let me know and I'll send you a photocopy.

Re: I got it from you, signed them and

[identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com 2002-10-04 02:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, okay, need to learn to read, then. ^_^ Will be expecting them soon!