bubosquared: (grrr)
Sofie 'Melle' Werkers ([personal profile] bubosquared) wrote2001-11-18 12:21 pm

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Note to this doofus: Childhood innocence is a myth! Jebus. No one's gonna be scarred for life because they knew what sex is before they're 15. Reading explicit stories at a young age does not necessarily traumatise a child. Look at me! I got sex ed at 3, read smut at 12 and de Sade at 14, and i'm perfectly fine.

Muttermumblenotmyjobtoprotectyourfreakingkidsgrumble

[identity profile] dragonfizz.livejournal.com 2001-11-18 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
It's not my job to parent America.

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[identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com 2001-11-18 04:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I was about to say smoething like "or the world," but yeah, it does seem to be mainly Americans who act like this. Fuckers. Stop forcing your morals on the world!

ggrrr

[identity profile] misswhiplash63.livejournal.com 2001-11-18 04:42 am (UTC)(link)
I and everyuone i know knew what oral sex was long before 11 for gods sake! And not knowing about sex isn't innocence it's ignorance.

stupid people make me wanna scream...

Re: ggrrr

[identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com 2001-11-18 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)
And you know, I didn't talk about this with classmates. (I was the quiet one in the corner with the SF or fantasy book.) But um. I had a brain. Oral = to do with the mouth; sex = well, sex. Gee, whiz, how would that work?

If the kids's too effing stupid at 11 to figure that one out, you're creating a human being with the worst sex issues in the world. Get a clue. Ugh.

[identity profile] ex-frown243.livejournal.com 2001-11-18 05:38 am (UTC)(link)
*is horrified*

If I didn't know what oral sex was at age eleven, I would have been laughed out of my school. Blimey. I think it's safe to say that once a person is in the fifth grade, they should - and generally do - know all of the ins and outs of sex. What do these kids talk about at the lunch table? How titillating the meatloaf is?

Honestly.

[identity profile] girlinthecorner.livejournal.com 2001-11-18 06:02 am (UTC)(link)
Er... what the hell? Kids are practically *supposed* to go around trying to find out whatever they can about sex. It's like a rule. I know I did... I used to snoop through my parent's books trying to find things. And I was about 9 or 10. Because all the other little kids were talking about blow jobs and such, and I was like "what are they talking about? I must know!" And I did. And I didn't die.

[identity profile] okoge.livejournal.com 2001-11-18 06:37 am (UTC)(link)
No one's gonna be scarred for life because they knew what sex is before they're 15.

:)
that's my "me too" supportive face.

[identity profile] jackthegirl.livejournal.com 2001-11-18 07:23 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's more damaging to not know about sex. I only knew the basic (meaning sex=babies), until about 8th grade (thank you, Loveline!). Now I'm a sex crazed pervert, so there you have it.

[identity profile] gal-montag.livejournal.com 2001-11-18 09:20 am (UTC)(link)
*scratches head*

I was more scarred by the notion that sex is bad than I was by finding about sex itself.

So, in theory, wouldn't keeping kids from *positive* depictions and attitides about sex fuck them up more?

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[identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com 2001-11-18 04:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, indeed. My parents let us read smut et al from the age we wanted, really, which was about 11-13. They were confident that they'd raised us in way so we were able to tell what was a normal secxual act (whatever both participants enjoy) and what was "bad" (rape, etc.)

If you raise your kids properly, they'll not be scarred by smut. Sure, it's harder work than to just ignore the existence of sex and hope someone else'll teach 'em about condoms and whatnot, but hey, proper parenting is hard work.

And I reitreate, teaching kids what sex is, and telling them about condoms and the pill and whatnot does notand a condom. I never had the need/urge/partner to have sex, but I've always known that if I did want to, I could just call the doctor for an appointment, get on the pill, get condoms from our medicin cabinet, and have sex (in my own bed if I wanted), and my parents wouldn't make a big deal out of it.

No matter how many issues I have with my parents, I'll always be thankful o them for my lack of hangups about sex.

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[identity profile] gal-montag.livejournal.com 2001-11-18 06:15 pm (UTC)(link)
My mom didn't ignore it per se. I understood most of the ins and outs when I was pretty young.

Trouble is that she'd always tell me never to have sex until I was thirty. She went through and censored some of the novels I read. (Notably The Witching Hour which I read when I was about 16 or 17.)

I have a very messed up view of sex.
ext_8571: (Eliza laughing)

[identity profile] slippery-fish.livejournal.com 2001-11-18 10:06 am (UTC)(link)
Uhm, being scared because you know what sex is ? Well, would mean that whole East Germany was a collection of scared freaks. We were told the whole stuff in the first grade...Whatever. And I'm so not scared. Maybe a freak, but not scared...:)

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[identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com 2001-11-18 03:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Iknew what sex was before I was six. So did m brothers. None of us are scarred, nor the sex maniacs some people seem to think it turns kids into. I'm turning 21 in December and I've never even been kissed, for Christ's sake!

::shakes head in disgust::

[identity profile] o-contrary.livejournal.com 2001-11-18 10:06 am (UTC)(link)
Hasn't anyone figured out yet that the more something is forbidden, the more determined the devious creatures known as kids are going to be to find out as much about it as possible?

Good grief. In my family, it became sort of a game between my sister and I to see how long it would take to get my mom addicted to the smut novels she was letting my sister read. Lessee. I was 9, my sis was 11. We're both fine now. The areas in which we aren't fine have nothing to do with sex ed or lack thereof.

They're going to learn about it one way or another, so you might as well just let them.

Re: ::shakes head in disgust::

[identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com 2001-11-18 03:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Ugh, exactly. Sure, you've to adjust the level and speed of the "sex-ed" to the kid (I was one of these kids who just hungered for knowledge, while my brother needed to digest knowledge in pieces), but by the time they're eleven (we were freaking toddlers for fuck's sake!) they ought to at least be able to deduce what oral sex is.

Jebus.