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Sofie 'Melle' Werkers ([personal profile] bubosquared) wrote2002-07-25 12:19 am
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Hello, my name is Melle. I've read and enjoyed, and written, rapefic, That doesn't mean I condone rape.

I've read and enjoyed incestfic (het and slash). That doesn't mean I want to shag my brother.

I've read and enjoyed, and currently have a bunny for chanslash (undeage slash). That doesn't mean I think all adult/teenager relatoinships are completely equal and healthy.

I'm working on an IRA!AU. I do not think terrorism is good.

I've also read watersports, scat, necrophilia, and all kins of things that require warnings. I'm notoriously unsquickable by content. Pairing, sometimes, because I'm prone to character issues, and some characterisatoins, and unhealthy relationships portrayed as romatic rub me the wrong way, but you know, it's fiction. I have a back button, and a delete button, and I have no qualks about writing to someone if I'm truly bothered saying "Look, I think this is terrible OOC" and stuff.

But I'm not gonna judge people on what they read or write. Because I've been reading incest porn and hardcore S&M and rape porn and all kinds of wrong since I was fourteen, and I have yet to shag my brothers, or rape someone, or what have you.

We are not our stories.

[identity profile] dramaturgy.livejournal.com 2002-07-24 03:38 pm (UTC)(link)
*waves a nifty flag agreeing with Melle*

[identity profile] darksong.livejournal.com 2002-07-24 03:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I think one of the things art allows us to do is safely explore things we couldn't--or don't want to--in life. I think the whole purpose of art is to challenge us--whether it makes us uncomfortable, makes us think, whatever. Just because we may write about something doesn't mean we want to do it. Just because we read about something doesn't mean we want to do it.

I don't understand why people don't--or can't--see this distinction.

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[identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com 2002-07-25 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
*nod*

I mean, I know it's probably a lot easier for me, because I am, as I said, notoriously unsquickable to the point where I've written stories for people as a reward for managing that feat. But I've had this kind of discussion about rapefic, chanslash, incest, whatever, about two dozen times over, and it always comes down to the fact that it's fiction and doesn't harm anyone.

[identity profile] pirateyes.livejournal.com 2002-07-24 03:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you. Very well said.

I just wrote something very similar here (http://www.livejournal.com/talkread.bml?journal=libertyginger&itemid=50494&nc=1).

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[identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com 2002-07-25 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, V pointed me to that yesterday. I really liked what you had to say, and you made a very good point about the *NSync "brothers" thing.

[identity profile] tonights.livejournal.com 2002-07-24 03:56 pm (UTC)(link)
*shakes head* Thanks. I love it when people bring this into focus. I just... yeah. Thanks.

And er, speaking of rape!fic, were you the one who asked for the "Marcus'n'Oliver in the showers after Gryffindor's won" fic? Because, like, the muses just gave in. *g*

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[identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com 2002-07-25 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, I didn't mean THAT! I just wanted some nice H/C, dammit. *sobs*

[identity profile] tonights.livejournal.com 2002-07-25 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
*grins cynically* And that means you're not going to want to have it dedicated to you for being all your fault?

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[identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com 2002-07-25 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
....

Bitch. *sniff* I wanted some nice, happy, sappy M/O!

[identity profile] tonights.livejournal.com 2002-07-25 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
Sap will happen. Really. I have an idea for sap, I'm just not quite sure when it's going to happen, because those two are HARD TO SAP.

The sapfic I'm doing has those lines in it where Oliver says that if they fuck any more he won't be able to walk, and Marcus says he'll carry him. I think I txt'd you those.

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[identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com 2002-07-25 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
I want sap NOW! The RP is breaking me! Sap me! Any pairing! Chris/Tybs! Marc/Oli! Marc/Ter! Lee/George! Anything! *sob*

And yes. You did. And then I fell out of bed laughing. Thanks a lot. :p

[identity profile] armistice.livejournal.com 2002-07-24 07:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Amen, my sister.

[identity profile] kitsune13.livejournal.com 2002-07-24 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
*kisses Melle's hand* Tell it, girl!

Seriously. What everyone else said, about art being a safe place, and a challenge, and not being life.

[identity profile] fricknfrack.livejournal.com 2002-07-25 03:02 pm (UTC)(link)
*applauds* Thank you so very much for posting that.

Need I say again that you kick some major ass? 'Cause you do, you know.

Sierra