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Sofie 'Melle' Werkers ([personal profile] bubosquared) wrote2001-10-16 07:21 pm
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Ha! I wasn't the only one who made that connection. ^_^

I can't believe that bloke trolled me out of of year and a half of lurkdom on that list!

Re: And I just got around to joining a little while ago

[identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com 2001-10-22 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, because the whole "delusional" argument is really based on the assumption (sp?) that we take slashiness of character and project it on the actors (supposedly because we're either delusional or not talented enough to slash a movie/tv show, which has a much stricter canon than rps), which reallly isn't the case.

As for the kissing, that's really muchly culurally determined. For example, when I went clubbing last week, I saw two guys kissing (cheeck) in greeting. Nobody batted an eye, because that sort of thing is rather normal here. (Yeah, I'm a lucky bitch who's going to miss this terribly when she emigrates. :)

(Oh, and later, there were these four blokes who kept being goofy and adorable and touchy-feely and dancing together and while this is less "normal" and I did squee over it, people were just amused at them, not disgusted, not speculating or whatnot.)

And I agree, I wish it was more socially acceptable for men to express their emotions, especially physically -- to anyone, be they male or female. Because it's not just the guy/guy thing; as soon as a guy touches a woman for longer than a few seconds, there's speculations.

But really, we've come a long way, and at least men are able to joke around about it now. It's become a sort of ... self-relativating thing, if that makes sense. No longer a Horrible Rumour, but Oh Yeah, That Amusing Rumour.

I have nothing say re: Robbie, other than that he and Mark are Next Up on my List Of Things To Write. Le sigh.
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Re: And I just got around to joining a little while ago

[personal profile] coneyislandbaby 2001-10-22 09:03 am (UTC)(link)
You know, I think that although there's some leeway, there is actually stricter adherence to canon in RPS (with the obvious exceptions like RL gfs/bfs) than there is in FPS. Of course, one of my fave things about RPS is the constantly changing nature of the canon. It's like a less annoying soap opera (annoying in the sense that canon twists way too fast to write, in the case of soaps). And I think that it takes more talent to write RPS characters well than it does to write (some) FPS characters well.

Well, yes, but Belgium is similar to France in that aspect. Well, Europe, really, but France is the stereotype.

And that sounds too adorable. I have to settle for straight bois acting slashily (which is it's own brand of fun).

Oh, yes. I agree.

I like that. That Amusing Rumour.

And I can't wait for more Robbie slash.

Oooh! I joined a Joey slash list (me, desperate? Yes!) and there was another Robbie/Joey fic. Rather cute little PWP. Would you like a copy emailed?

And I'm very proud of myself. I have finally figured out who JC and Chris are. I didn't know this before tonight. I just knew there was this terribly attractive man (who reminds me of Chris Isaak) who was one or the other (being that I already knew Joey, Justin and Lance), and he turned out to be JC. So Chris is the one who (at least at the time I have them on tape) with the goatee.

Re: And I just got around to joining a little while ago

[identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com 2001-10-24 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
Yep, yep, yep. There is a point in there, of course. RPS canon gives us much more leeway within the canon, so there's much less of a need to break out of it. But to imply that this makes us worse writers? It's especially confusing because I've heard some of these people say fanfic is easier than original because you have a defined character to work with. In RPS, there's less definition to the character, so there's more we need to fill in, so wouldn't that make it harder to write, in their logic?

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Re: And I just got around to joining a little while ago

[personal profile] coneyislandbaby 2001-10-24 11:23 am (UTC)(link)
Since when did their logic make any sense whatsoever?

You know, I think that's a big part of the problem. Their arguments aren't generally logical. And it's not even that I disagree, it's that the arguments make no sense (most of the time).

I think.

Re: And I just got around to joining a little while ago

[identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com 2001-10-25 02:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Not only do they make no sense, they're often based on incorrect data, and sometimes even lies. And that's just. Argh!
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Re: And I just got around to joining a little while ago

[personal profile] coneyislandbaby 2001-10-26 08:12 am (UTC)(link)
I know. It's frustrating and annoying.

But once in a while, you can and do reach someone. Even someone you never expected to in a million years.

I know, because it happened for me. And all I did was explain calmly and rationally my position on RPS.

It's thoughts like that that keep me from exploding too much over this stuff.