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Sofie 'Melle' Werkers ([personal profile] bubosquared) wrote2002-01-23 07:59 pm
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Once more, with fucking feeling!

Random rant brought on by something [livejournal.com profile] arkane156 linked to:

I really, really, really wish the anti-RPSers would STOP insisting that if/when we'd be slashed, we'd be upset about it.

One: No. We. Wouldn't! Argh! For fuck's sake, how many times do we need to say this? I don't kow about this person, but personally, I'm intelligent enough to be able to distinguish facts from fiction, and slander from stories clearly labelled as not true. If she lacks the cognitive abilities to do so, that's not my fucking fault.

Two: The standard response to our assertions that we don't give a rat's arse about being slashed ourselves is "But you can't apply your feelings to other people!" Hey, guess what? NEITHER CAN YOU!

Three: Honestly, I'm not that worried about celebrities being upset about (my) RPS. First of all because I happen to think that any celebrity whom I find interesting enough to write about has a sense of humour and some self-relativation. Really, I think Justin Timberlake ismore worried about the kind of fans who rummage through his garbage and follow him on a private holiday with his girlfriend, than about the kind who writes stories about him fucking his groupmates. And secondly, even if they should a) find this stuff and b) be hurt, ... well, not to sound insensitive, but so fucking what? Everyone is going to find something online that they'll be hurt by. It's not my fucking job to make the internet safe for anyone. That goes for little kiddies who might stumble onto my porn, and it goes double for adults, even if said adults happen to be celebrities. They're just people, folks. i'm not gonna treat them any different from the average Joe Shmob (or Jane Fangirl, as the case may be) who reads my stories and is "traumatised" by them.

I'm gonna go take a shower and make dinner now. When I come back, if I'm still this angry, I might write her an email. Or maybe I'll update the FMO, or something. (Sugestions appreciated.)

(Hm. Seems like my inner RPS-spokesperson has returned with a vengeance. ^__^)

(Edit: I must say, I also rather like (not) her assertion that "[slashers] are, almost without question, straight female[s]", considering that most of the RPSers I know are anything but straight, and quiea few of them aren't exactly white, either. Also, this was relevant to this rant in what way? Motherfucking bitch!)

[identity profile] punkrawkpyro.livejournal.com 2002-01-23 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Ugh, I just skimmed over what that idiot ranted about...its horrible, really.

I actually am a white, straight, female, but that is in no way an implication as to what the rest of the slash community is. I mean, half (maybe more) of the slashers I know aren't straight white females.

And, if someone wrote slash about me, I wouldn't try to kill them. Secondly to that, you can find information on celebrities much more easily than you can on "normal people". So, if they were picking out you average person on the internet, they would have to go to alot more trouble to find stuff out. But its easy to find, say, Bono's birthday or something. Its really not a good comparison. You can never tell how some people are going to react.

Now look Melle, you've got everyone ranting all over your comments page. Good job. :)

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[identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com 2002-01-24 07:54 am (UTC)(link)
The thing is, back in the days, slash fen most likely were 99% Straight White Female. The 'Net has brought more diversity, but because people don't interact face-to-face, you can't actually see the diversity, and well. I guess people still assume that you're a SWF until provel "guilty". So to speak. :/

And that's actually a very good point, and one I hadn't thought about yet. It is a lot easier to find info on celebrities etc. online than about non-celebs. Because celebs give out that information (the majority of it, anyway) themselves, because that's a part of being a celebrity.

Also, if I may be shallow for a moment, "normal" people don't get paid the inane amounts of money that celebrities do. Face it, that's the way the star system works. They get paid, and in return they give us this image of them, someone to look up to or revile, someone to pretend we know.

[identity profile] punkrawkpyro.livejournal.com 2002-01-24 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, see, I wasn't around back in the day. Thats bad in some ways, (I don't know what people are talking about sometimes.) and good in others (RPS has, from my point of view, always been around, to me, its really rather normal. And stuff that at one point may have seemed horrible to most people, isn't considered all that bad now. And when you're just dropped into that, you just figure that that's the way it is. Er...babbling again, aren't I?)

Oh yay! I made a point that makes sense!

Ah yes, one of the sacrifices of stardom. But when you become a celebrity, you kinda know you're gonna have to give up most of your privacy, whether you like it or not. And for most celebrities, thats a price they're willing to pay. Its just how it works. So, yes, completely agree with you on that one.

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[identity profile] bubosquared.livejournal.com 2002-01-26 01:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I wasn't around, either, but that's what I'm told. :)

And see, ... really, the only people who distinguish between FPS and RPS are the fanficcers themselves. I've talked about slash to "mundanes" (non-fen) and none of them made that distinction. Basically, to them, we're all freaky nerd people.

And the thing is, as a celebrity, you do have some choice as to which bits of privacy you give up and which you keep.